Anonymous asked: how is that homophobic? i have gay friends and support them all the way, but i don't believe in gay marriage.

sonatagreen:

ozymandias271:

scienceofsarcasm:

ickletayto:

lesbianvenom:

your gay friends are all talking shit behind your back 100%

Yeah, you support them all the way.. We’ll most of the way.. We’ll some of the way.. Clearly not as far as marriage.. Cause marriage ain’t for gays.. Or something

You hear so many of these people say, “I have a lot of gay friends but don’t believe in same sex marriage”, but you never hear gay people say “I’ve lots of friends who think it should be illegal for me to marry the person I love”.

So, here’s a PSA for everyone who is against marriage equality, but thinks they have gay friends. You probably don’t. What you have are gay acquaintances who have learned to quietly put up with your bullshit because it’s the path of least resistance and they just don’t have the energy to “My Fair Lady” your ass into being a decent human being.

Hello! I am bisexual! I have, in fact, over the course of my life, had a fair number of friends who believe gay marriage should be illegal! I do not appreciate being informed I do not exist and that my friends should think they are not my friends!

I think you’re in the minority that makes that “probably” not a “definitely”.

Alternative hypothesis: People are generally willing to tolerate their friends having different political opinions from them, even on issues that affect them personally. They are much less likely to tolerate someone whom they see as having a personal animus against them or a group they’re part of.

Which side of the line does opposition to same-sex marriage fall on? Advocates of same-sex marriage like to say things like “this isn’t just a mere political issue, it’s a matter of human rights”. But this is silly; every political issue is a matter of human rights. The real difference between “political issue” and “if you don’t support this you’re a terrible person” is cultural context.

Almost everyone in my social circle supports same-sex marriage. I suspect this is also true of many others in this thread. In a cultural context like that, anyone who opposes same-sex marriage is defying cultural expectations, so I’d expect many people to think things like “you oppose same-sex marriage so you must hate gay people”. Someone who opposes same-sex marriage isn’t going to make very many gay friends in such an environment.

Whereas in a cultural context where support for same-sex marriage isn’t as widespread, I’d expect most people not to follow that line of reasoning, and instead to treat it as a political issue where differences of opinion are to be expected. There, I could easily see someone opposing same-sex marriage and nonetheless having gay friends.

The first few people in this thread probably come from the first kind of cultural context, and may not fully realize that the second kind exists. (Meanwhile, I suspect that Ozy is coming from neither of these, but rather from a context that deliberately maintains a much-wider-than-usual Overton window, so opposition to same-sex marriage is accepted even though most people support it.)